[-empyre-] conceptuopoly
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- Subject: [-empyre-] conceptuopoly
- From: ryan griffis <grifray@yahoo.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:35:12 -0700
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On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Eduardo wrote:
The key concept to keep in mind in relation to Conceptual art is that
it
developed in reaction to Greenbergian modernism. <snip> If anyone
wants to consider this any
further check the book Conceptual Art, a critical anthology:
i'm glad that eduardo brings up Alberro and Stimson's anthology as it
brings up some connections that, for me anyway, seem relevant to all
the threads discussed so far. the greenbergian modernism that Eduardo
positions capital C conceptual art against holds only if you stick to
NYC, which thankfully the anthology doesn't (completely). but that's
neither here nor there. what's useful is the introduction of the
development of conceptualisms/modernisms by artists like Oiticica,
Clark, Meireles, Camnitzer - all of whom are included in the anthology
and supply an extremely different orientation to the relationship
between materialism, language and aesthetics when compared to weiner,
bochner, kosuth, etc and even the euro conceptualists art & language,
buren, etc.
and i wouldn't even say that all the artists in the US shared the same
framework (we can't forget Rosler, Acconci, Sekula, Lonidier,
Beveridge/Conde). Oiticica claimed, contrary to the dematerialization
of art, that the work of avant garde Brazilian artists was "a move
towards the object" while being equally oriented toward a "concept of
anti-art."
http://mitpress2.mit.edu/e-journals/Leonardo/isast/spec.projects/
osthoff/osthoff.html
http://ca80.lehman.cuny.edu/gallery/luis_camnitzer/mosquera_essay.htm
http://www.brazilnetwork.org/statics/media/visualarts/works/cildo.htm
i think the discussion of new media's relationship to capital C
conceptual art is a moot point in terms of style, as eduardo suggests,
even though there are some connections to be found in the context of a
continuum of political economy - Alberro's analysis of publicity in
relation to certain conceptual art practices and the growth of data
production/replication/distribution systems can point to a relationship
beyond the allegorical. but i'm interested in the continuation of a
political economy, not the intention of a critique or lack thereof.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0268/is_6_41/ai_98123121/pg_1
i'm wondering if the work of Oiticica, Clark and the others mentioned
above provide a space to discuss both the geocultural fissures that
have come up as well as the notion of matrixial space - as their work
(in my crude understanding of it) functions through a simultaneously
critical and generative manner (not either-or).
maybe... maybe not.
best,
ryan
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